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Warming Up
Posts: 33 (27/01/08 4:53 PM) |
I have a very strong idea of what that is - but who is the next question doing it. A group with loads of money?
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Mad&Loving It
Posts: 71 (29/01/08 1:25 AM) Warming Up |
Apart from the obvious - the accepted consensus view of reality, generally held beliefs which are usually based on scientific "fact" &
observation, which could be false, i.e. in the past thinking the world was flat or the earth was the centre of the Universe. Apart from the accepted mechanism
of control within society from Government & Law. Apart from the obvious issues surrounding the arms trade, big corporations, the animal trade, &
environmental issues. Apart from coercion by the media & advertising. Apart from wars & conflicts in the world. Apart from these things can we say
categorically that "mind control" is being perpetrated either en mass or against a significant number of innocent people. After many years of careful
consideration, & knowing the "evidence" & the material on this, then I would have to say NO - this "stuff" is not happening. I
could of course be wrong in saying this. But if "mind control" on the scale you say is happening I honestly don't think it can be separated from
many other "conspiratorial" theory. You haven't explained why there is no truth in any of the "Alien" theories. If we are taking
"mind control" as fact, I would have to say that after having researched at depth the Alien question, that it is more likely that "Aliens"
are behind all this & the Alien theories hold more water in this context.
I agree with you that "Modern" Western orthodox psychiatry is somewhat of a joke & it has more to do with the control & repression of people that are deemed not confirming to the "norms" or accepted behavior of society, than it has to do with helping or healing people. Drugging people is not a solution. But such is the world we live in & it will not change overnight. If "mind control" is a fact of reality & is in widespread use - which after careful consideration & close to 10 years of looking at the subject in depth - I do not believe is the case if I am pressed. (I am willing to keep an open mind to the possibility, but within the realms of the possible - what is impossible?) If mind control is this "fact" then it is controlled by very powerful interests & there is nothing you or I can do about it. Talking about it on-line just adds to the already vast amount of information already on this subject. It gets us no closer as to what you can actually do about it. I have stopped wasting my time worrying about such things. If you want me to surmise on who is behind it?, going with the most relevant scenarios within these field of thought - It is the Orion Empire, a race of reptilian shape shifters who have life spans lasting 10's of thousands of years, they have mastered inter stellar space travel eons ago, & they discovered this planet when we were in our infancy millions of years ago. They have been genetically, chemically, electronically & psychologically manipulating us ever since, they work in the background never revealing themselves as they truly are. The "Grey" aliens are their lackeys - who carry out allot of their plans & their orders on their behalf. Certain groups of earth are aware to a degree of these facts. The highest echelons of the masonic order - the Olympians, sometimes known by other names. Through this elite group the Orion's are in the final stages of the total enslavement of the earth, a prison planet, a prison so perfect that the inhabitants do not realise that this prison exists. The Orion goal is to have a totally controlled & zombie race for their own desires of domination & amusement.
The heart has reasons which the reason cannot understand. --Blaise Pascal
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Warming Up
Posts: 34 (29/01/08 6:12 PM) |
I agree - the first paragraph - spot on there, could not have put it better myself. It is not a conspiracy theory at all. I am finding it everywhere.
Mainstream newspapers - all political leanings. Even the Times Educational Supplement has touched on it
Sorry - aliens do not exist. Spot on - absolutely agree about the state of psychiatry today - this is the loop hole to allow it to happen... Ok - you looked at it in depth - but did you contact people involved in up to date research, abstracts, Parliament sites, here and abroad - did you look at the whole phenomena - right across society and cultures? etc etc. I did... What is running it - organised crime - peadophillia, drug and human trafficking, child abuse ( this includes the inside of social services fostering children out for no reason as a thriving back hand system ). Its in the govt at all levels. Directly and indirectly Look at Brian Gerrish - "common purpose" this is what is inside your schools, NHS, fire, police, ambulance, bin men etc etc.....No joke a charity running important aspects of the uk - runs plymouth apparently. Works under chattham house rules - Why? to hide something. Infiltration within it of organised crime... connected to freemasonry. yeah yeah that old plum!! but look at it - inside out. Guess what? It runs mental health too..... google it. do some research on it...tell me what you think? cori |
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Mad&Loving It
Posts: 72 (29/01/08 7:07 PM) Warming Up |
I have Googled it, I have done research on this subject for over a decade. I don't buy it at the level you do.
I fail to share in your belief that "aliens don't exist", for one it is a bold claim to suppose there is no intelligent life out there in the unfathomable vastness of the Universe. I don't necessarily believe the theories on this either.
The heart has reasons which the reason cannot understand. --Blaise Pascal
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Warming Up
Posts: 35 (29/01/08 7:42 PM) |
what common purpose...? they have only bee known about officially the last six years or so - they were a hidden in the quangos heap.
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Warming Up
Posts: 35 (29/01/08 7:42 PM) |
what common purpose...? they have only been known about officially the last six years or so - they were a hidden in the quangos heap.
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Mad&Loving It
Posts: 73 (30/01/08 1:50 AM) Warming Up |
Amazing what you can find when you look. Allot of this stuff is very old hat.
The heart has reasons which the reason cannot understand. --Blaise Pascal
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Mad&Loving It
Posts: 208 (10/03/08 10:31 PM) Mad&Loving It |
I found this thread very interesting. myu thoughts on it were that it's two separate things - whether there is 'mind control' and whether someone
it ill. Some people have these theories that are not lll. And some people get ill with it if that makes sense. Like also being paranoid can have to do with the
way someone responds to things in an obsessieve way. Because some sane people are coming up with the same philosophies. And in fact philosophers have too ! to
become ill with it would mean that these kind of things could have taken over my life if I din't get it in perspective. Same with people, they are not
always nice and it would be naive to think they were. But it would also e paranoid to think that 'they are all out to get me' and that there wasn't
a good side to some people too. If that makes any sense. Anyway thanks for the thread. Sahara
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Mad&Loving It
Posts: 75 (11/03/08 2:25 AM) Warming Up |
sahara09bond wrote:Hi Sahara, Yes - you make perfect sense. Thanks for your input. These "Mind Control" & Conspiracy themes were a part of my "illness" in the past; these themes incorporated the content for some of my delusions. Now weller than I was - although there is some facts; it is very important to remember that the only thing which can be proved about any of this "mind control" stuff - is that the technology exists, in limited form, for certain things to potentially exist. However, this does not prove that mind control weapons are being used, nor does it prove such weapons exist. Whatever the actual "truth", which is debated - such ideas of conspiracy are just that - within the realms of Paranoid conspiracy theory, & All of which has been talked about in this thread concerning "cause stalking & mind control" - is entirely UNPROVEN. In my own experience; I am no longer bothered or worried about what; - supposed Agents & factions with an agenda of mind control are up to, (whether they exist or not), In fact I no longer believe they exist, but were simply parts of psychotic experience.
The heart has reasons which the reason cannot understand. --Blaise Pascal
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Mad&Loving It
Posts: 76 (11/03/08 2:27 AM) Warming Up |
[Does anyone know why there are Google Ads appearing in my last post, is it just my end? & why my avatar isn't appearing in this thread???]
The heart has reasons which the reason cannot understand. --Blaise Pascal
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