Quote " psychotic state by it's nature is one in which there is no insight into the condition itself. I am not saying that it is definite that you are
suffering a psychosis, but, with respect, it is possible. unquote No - I understand the nature of the condition. I think after all this I may do and have read
about it and talked to a few psychiatrists at the maudsley . Many sufferes are subjectd to this and suffer from ptsd No - this is revenge. It started when I
was 17 when I saw the first skit and realised this what it was - but only realised that when was 41 (pink sink left on doorstep. All the bins were left on the
lights on the street. Same day - all cars in street were stripped of petrol - I was almost kidnapped at five by an escaped mental health inmate? after an
operation on my mouth). My dad left at exactly the same time, when I was 17 - was I traumatised by this - no was pleased as he had caused or been the family
member creating trouble. Coach made it clear that I would have missed all my blindspots in my life - ??????? so now I know what she meant. This was cause
stalking and e-harassment. I had flu for eight years. I also discover this e-harassment based - much research done on this as well. This was brought forth by a
dr byrd I believe.. Masonic groups and cause stalking groups play around with ones image and number - occult behaviour. I was told that this is what it was
about by the cult group. I have been threatened by a noose and had dead things left on my doorstep (satanic angle?) Pink sink = I had bright pink dyed hair
when this happened to me - cerise pink? Sink - well does that need explaining petrol removal = don't travel. I am the only family member to have travelled
apart from my dad bins on street lamps = covered light and energy, this is what e-harassment is - energy, voice to skull, body pain is about esoteric
technology - real time technology, it fits into holograms, cymatics, bio-energy - in short quantum mechanics basically. I am aware that mystical symbolism is
not my thing - but I read it. I am very clear about my experiences. My life ones - this was odd again. The whole street experienced it. Did I think it was
about me - no, I do now - not because I am ill - but they told me to vigilante. Mind games is what is. They told me to work it out? It could have covered my
family not just me In 91 was subjected to a three year ordeal involving neighbours. Banging on walls - dumped rubbish on car - chased - stalked - etc etc...
Then everywhere I lived I had car damage......... then again......... and again...... all evidence have - photos etc........ In cause stalking - this is how it
seems to start. then escalating to e-harassment...........I seem to have a mirror relating to what has happened regarding the harassment to cause stalking. I
cannot make it up - the timeline of me and odd skits relate to it - direct hit My father was a cause stalker - he used to go out at night and return late or
early. One night I saw him tampering with my neighbours tyres. He used to inject their trees with weed killer so they died. Putting salt around the base of a
tree will make it drip its leaves. I saw him do those things wiyth my own eyes as a kid - he used to put us in the car anf follow people around - tailgateing
their car. I would never have worked that out - if I had not had it done to myself I can only reflect and thought !$!$ when I realised that he was a member of
the masons and his behaviour was horrible to others. He used to do minor but annoying things to others. I undertsand that targets who help targets - get
targetted themselves.... There is two books on this subject - david lawson - cause stalking and Mark rich - the hidden evil...
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I then find that a family member Allen Carr - wrote a document "scandal" about the abuse of funds and drugs related to the the NHS. He died recently
- he was a hypnotist - and then I discover my family - well that side are into that - some are clinical hypnotists. He was equivilant to Paul Mckenna - he was
only into getting people off smoking I gather - not anything else.
He died worth 124 million - not bad for an untrained hypnotist....... So he slags off the NHS via a very public book, the NHS has had to have anti-corruption units installed in all hospitals as it was so prevalent. This is why they were so much in the red and they were shutting community hospitals etc etc - the corruption was rife..... I had my coaching in the middle of his second funeral/memorial - he was buried in spain but had another funeral here for other family members.... I have a feeling this is also where it lies some of my attacks - he was such a big noise that he would have made feckin waves - no tsunami's as he was so famous. Paul Mckenna threatened to sue him for defamation - or was it the other way around. They argued publicly. I went to a meeting once to become an NLP practitioner and I was kindly told all this info. Most NLP schools do come directly or indirectly via Paul Mckenna - those trained by him - open their own. Or bandler and his co partner do training in the UK as well - some NLP schools - train people in Huna techniques - which is associated with the psychic phenomena You see - techniques change as well as names they are called. I did an exercise that involved the cause stalking phenomena and e-harassment and traced its names - through time and country and techniques. But they are one of the same thing. Advances in technology have allowed its progression to be markedly dramatic. We have discovered that there has been a worldwide explosion of "schizophrenic" diagnosis - but we have the senior editor of the American psychiatric journal telling us that they don't know what schizophrenia really is and they look to Europe for answers - then we have Europe telling us that they don't really know either and they look to America. At the same time our community world wide - did a head count and discovered we kind of matched the statistics - the explosion occoured in 2001 - those who became aware of it. I also discovered the majority of us are in our 40's. It has been said that getting a psychosis at 40 is rare. Psychiatric journals note this - most are 15-30's Anyway - this is a good enough reason for the masons to lash out at a family member related to Allen Carr - the masons run hospitals in Austrailia. Here in the UK - if you train as a doctor - did you know that you automatically become a lodge member. Hospitals have their own masonic lodges.... so masonic lodges just for doctors - as I said the police have their own masonic lodges. (there are 11 in the uk) I guess that female masons go to the Eastern Star. Also the masons assign themselves to a hospital to raise funds. If a mason is not put through the NHS quick enough - they can ask for funding to allow to go private - its part of their system |
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Have you read John J. McMurtrey research paper on
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"This is what e-harassment does or is - extreme brain states. This was demonstrated by Karl Pribham in his dept - which was full of scientists related to
scientology. He discusses "technology" to do this. And he was always using the "spiritual " angle to embed the meaning and ideas behind his
use of technology...... e-harassment is a psychotic state...........psychotic states can be created by e-harassment"
However the psychosis is caused - even if your state of mind is the result of brain washing & e-harassment, do you then think that you are in a psychotic state? If you are in a psychotic state - then what is the best course of action for you? I believe that there are certain things which have caused my "illness" or psychosis. With the right kind of help I do think I could have made a better recovery - with genuine empathy, practical support, listening, social acceptance, & a therapeutic environment. Instead of numerous arrests, sections, forced treatment etc. If I could access professional Jungian psychological help, I do think it would benefit me greatly. But with the system being as it is & irregardless of what I think actually caused the psychosis, the fact remains that I have suffered with it, & the orthodox course of action within our society is to medicate people. I would rather not be dependant on tablets, but when I have stopped them I become very ill very quickly. I accept that with the circumstances of my life I need to take a low dose of an anti psychotic to be able to function, & with other support & coping mechanisms I have a reasonable quality of life considering. Some of my life is & has been pretty good. I am not suggesting either way that you take tablets or not, that should be your decision. But if you are psychosed for whatever reason medication may be of some benefit. If the psychosis is caused by e-harassment; then tablets could well ease the effects of this. Have you considered this? It also goes back to - If all you believe what you think is happening is actually happening & everything you are talking about is true; then it goes back to the same pertinent questions; Where will knowing all this stuff get you? what does it profit you knowing this "stuff"? & What can you do about it? Of course by the vast majority of people, if you talk about this stuff, you will be considered mad. There is no open acknowledgement of any of this stuff. If it is going on at the level you say it is & it is so entrenched, how on earth do you suppose to 1. reveal it for what it is. & 2. beat them. I don't see how you can. Truth is I don't read into it quite the same things that you have done. I have my own theories but I have different reasons for what I think could be going on. I am not sure of any of this "conspiratorial" stuff, as I have said it is simply an area of interest to me & I no longer invest my emotions into it. Some of it makes good reading as ideas, interesting ideas which may or may not contain elements of truth. You seem to be avoiding the subject; but if you do buy into the ideas around "mind control" & advanced technology, as well as secret societies, I think you must look at the whole question of Alien influence & interference. It is difficult to look at "mind control" without considering other elements in this picture. You also have not mentioned why "they" are doing these things? What is the point to it all? I do wish you well, but I also question the logic, sense & benefit of posting all this stuff on a Mental Health forum? If you don't believe your suffering a mental illness & you want help with this stuff, what do you expect from MH forums & people who have suffered genuine mental illness?
The heart has reasons which the reason cannot understand. --Blaise Pascal
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the state I am in is - one of frustrataion to be honest. I have been told via a call that I will never get out of this state I find myself in. I see that I was
stalked in 91 - and as I said when I was 17 in 1983. So having the police identify and state that it was not my imagination. My partner witness the said
stalking as he got the brunt end of it as well. The history of car damage - now gone on for nearly twenty years is enough evidence - not merely a lifes
problem. Or just a mere accident that my car looked this way whilst I slept. I am followed - yes! I know it fits into a psychotic state what I discuss - did
you read that article I posted previously?. But watching my parent do that to others is not my imagination either. I just thought he was evil, not part of a
bigger group - being evil on a bigger scale
Where will this help me - I am not sure that is the big question? What have I learnt - a lot about my family. I see lots in what I have experienced regarding this phenomena and now know that it is "mind control" that is what I am suffering with. The written evidence that I have and the experiences have awoken me to perhaps my fate.... what ever that is.....? yes - I agree that what you should have is empathy, and all the other things you mention - but that is in short supply this thing called "compassion". Society as it is does not attribute that way of dealing with a person - if the are mentally ill - or deemed it, then you do not fit the norm - therefore you are a useless eater to some extent. Jungian - he was as bad I think as Freud. Freud is the basis of our system at present and he contributed to the beginings of this crap system we find ourselves in Ewan Cameron a pdoc from Scotland who perfected the art of electro shock treatment in Canada. He was present at the Nuremberg trials and helped exterminate the Nazis involved in the holoaust - then he became the World wide Psychologist in charge and did as much as what the Nazis did through his medical experiments on unwitting members of the population. He was found out and left via the back door in disgrace. Psychology - psychiatry is a guinea pig pseudo science. Many are found out and disgraced and pushed out - the list is getting longer Any drugs you take related to psychosis are infact glorified anti-histamines. I researched how they came into being and how they developed and many deaths are connected to their use. Anti-psychotics are a development of the repackaged antihistamine. Histamines connect and control the seretonin in your head... Try gestelt - might be more up your street or the "spiritual" version. I think its called transpersonal therapy. Anyway, it is not my job to tell you what you need as the other way. But discussing it helps. My aim was to see if anyone else had experienced what I had..... then to discuss it of course sensibly and compare notes on what happened. Then to see what options I had.... As I am new to this I am not sure what I can do. In fact probably nothing. I have discussed this openly - and actually no-one thinks I am mad, infact they believe it - why because of the invaison of the cult people into my life with their crystal ball. Evidence of teeth being changed, and the car and house damage. It is clearly written about and as I said my life experiences mirror the phenomena. My body sensations are linked to e-harassment or if you are the spiritual type - it relates to the kundalini awakening. But I am also very aware that - my behaviour can be altered and everyone around me understands that. Not awww! she's having a turn. I have considered tablets - I was given meds and after that once. I was asked if I wanted meds again and refused and then they did not pressurise me into taking them after - this was after a sectioning. I work full-time and have a life - but not as it was. The stalking and physical harassment has taken its toll. I am a big target and have been told via a human that - they will not stop until I am put in a box. I know too much and could be a whistleblower - perhaps discussing it with my family and convincing them , without much difficulty makes me one now. Why say don't go to the press then? Would I take them to cope with the harassment - no I would not!!! My husbands wedding ring was pinched in 91 from the house during the cause stalking harassment - the barking cmht member said he had lost his wedding ring - also during another reign of terror. This all connects together. I am not taking random events and putting them together - I could not have worked this into some kind of elaborate story as my mother says I do not have that kind of imagination. So we have a situation where I am not considered mad because I am not. The story fits together because this comes from a group of people who have been clearly indicated to have a file on everyone. This is as I said related to the medical and they have access to you - freemasonry is central to this. There is such as a thing as a revenge register - do you realise you could be on it. Judging by what you said of how you have been treated - police, sections etc etc. This is unjust treatment of course. But as I said I know my stuff - nine months of wading through all sorts connected to it. The octupos tentacles are many as what we are talking about is embedded in society and the fact that it is intergenerational does not help either. I have discovered the bigger the mental health facility in your area - the worse it is. The surrounding area - gets involved as well. Why is that because particularly in my area as a start the facility covers three counties. So its like visiting bleinham palace - its that big - and they have money. The gardens and buildings are amazing - its a thriving business then. The way I look at it - the newspapers are controlled to such an extent that the public are not going to get the full truth. Rupert Murdoch nearly owns all the major newspapers across the world and that is 113 of them . Local ones repeat what he says. The censoring is massive. Other underground newpapers are more likely to speak the truth and as for conspiricies - well I am still looking at it all - with some areas confirmed. As with all info - some will be disinfo and misinfo - and as I see it that alot we read is based on the truth. Why say - don't go to the press - my research tells me they are masonic. So not much ever in the news about the masons. Some but not much. why post here - well. I am deemed to be psychotic apparently - but as I said I want to find others like me |
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If it won't help me it might help others
the Chemical Imbalance theory is a hoax. So if you are unfortunate to meet a Psychiatrist who presents you with an air of authority regarding you and this theory. You can tell them to stick it up their arse Psychiatrists have attributed the chemical imbalance (CI) theory with absolute certainty and this is why certain drugs were made to put seretonin or dopamine into the brain and thus right the balance. As from February 2007 the CI theory has been scupperd by the Royal College of Psychiatrists - pamphlets have been removed about certain conditions and rewritten and changes have taken place then they have returned but different. Thirty years ago the idea of CI was abandoned - but most psychiatrists still use it to diagnose and most of these drugs induce suicidal hostile thoughts. Even the Maudsley has moved in that direction too. They held a conferance in April about it CI can not be attributed to any disorder - the disorders can be a series of behavioural and bodily changes that span mind, brain, genes, body etc etc. They also say that with some things like schizophrenia that they don't have a complete answer to this disorder. They think it is to with the brain systems. No neurologist uses the words brain systems? Pugwash!!! These Psychiatrists must think we are stupid By the way this came from Dorothy Rowe - Emeritus Professor at the Royal College of Psychiatry UK. Professor C Heather Ashton at Newcastle University She says it started in the 1950's this idea that a chemical Imbalance was evident in the human - all drugs that concern with the developmemt of putting right this imbalance were discovered by chance to alleviate certain mental illnesses. The neuropletics that treat mind control conditions such as psychoisis and schizophrenia were originally used as antihistamines and it was supposedly found to help people with the two conditions I have just mentioned and it led to big trials and thus it became standard to treat the poor unfortunate souls. There is more - but at the end of the day it is the drug companies that financed this and they were looking for a market to try it out on. The drugs were tried out in hospitals in Europe which had patients, usually with schizophrenia. However psychiatrists quickly embraced the idea that the people who were being treated changed with the use of the drugs then it must be a chemical imbalance. Neoropletics were found to stop dopamine receptors and from that grew the dopamine theory of schizophrenia. It was seen that a lot of drugs were invented and the illnesses to go with the drugs too. How +*@! is that! Shocking eh!? Psychiatrists lapped all this up and it gave them an easier time when diagnosing the patient. It started a revolution in scientific thought because the first time symptoms that were merely thought of as psychological appeared to have real/physical basis; it meant that they had to dig further into how the brain works. Thats a relief then. Many Psychiatrists are troubled by what the drug companies do. You can not just oversimplify so for example say you have schizophrenia I have ticked the boxes from the DSM manual-1V and you now get drugs to right a dopamine imbalance, depression=seretonin, anxiety=GABA and so on. It is now recognised that everything has a real cause which is now more complicated. Whether drugs cure the symptoms. If you understand the word cure you will realise that it means not the cause just the symptoms - what does this mean for the long term? I have seen this written - "will it (drugs)help and cure mental illness - this remains a matter for doubt" She was seen as campaigner of the year - British Psychiatry Journal Another Psychiatrist - Dr Joanna Moncrief at UCL in London also notes that mental distress has been propogated by some kind of chemical imbalance - who from the drug companies. She says there is no evidence to support the drug companies claims. Is not possible to measure these chemicals directly. These have moral and ethical implications for all. It only justifies harmful intentions. I thought that they had to take an oath that says they will NOT harm another person. Apparently there is a new disorder called intermittent explosive disorder and compulsive shopping disorder. Now they can be treated with antidepressants. Well what can I say. Just shows you how crap all this is Chicken I write and find out about this as I will not be drugged up to my eyeballs they will have to catch me first. |
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"Jungian - he was as bad I think as Freud"
Having studied Jung, this statement of yours is sweeping & I disagree with it. Jung pioneered a compassionate & spiritual approach to Mental illness which is highly effective, he was able to cure a significant number of his patients. His ideology differed in many ways to Freud, so much so they fell out badly. "e-harassment or if you are the spiritual type - it relates to the kundalini awakening" The two things are utterly different. Kundalini awakening relates to a spiritual process entirely disconnected to the ideas around "mind control". I don't see any connection. "I have discussed this openly - and actually no-one thinks I am mad, infact they believe it" I have tried giving another perspective. I take tablets & live as much as I can in a down to earth way. Having been delusional & very ill in the past, discussing at length about such things does "spin me out" to a degree. I do not think or believe that I have been a victim of any of the things you mention. I think it highly debatable at the least that you are in fact experiencing what you believe you are. It is probably best to let someone else input their perspective into the discussion, it does appear we are going round in circles. We are to a degree controlled & manipulated by the mechanisms of society, I do not think, even with what I have read that this means individuals are targets of focused mind control experiments. Some very questionable things I think have gone on & maybe there is some truth to what you say. My experience however does not match up with your own conclusions & I am at a loss as to how I can help. I wish you well.
The heart has reasons which the reason cannot understand. --Blaise Pascal
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Posts: 32 (26/01/08 8:02 PM) |
ok - actually if you do happen to look up the difference of the kundalini awakening and e-harassment - you will find they are both considered a psychosis or
even at worst schizophrenia. Also having looked at most sites about the kundalini Awakening and e-harassment seperately - the list pointing out the
"symptoms" are the same. What illness has "voices" in it supposedly. So we now have a three way direction. The medical version = psychosis
- so does e - harassment and the kundalini awakening.
http://www.elcollie.com/st/symptoms.html http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=KundaliniandSchizophrenia http://biologyofkundalini.com/article.php?story=DroppingthePain-body What are the Symptoms of E-harassment? Reading of thoughts and the broadcasting of thoughts Controlled dreams Under sleeping - almost caffeine like induced Over sleeping Forced awakening at key points in the night Lethargy - sometimes extreme Paralysis Tooth pain - not infection Induced headaches Dizziness No pain - Respiratory problems Back Pain Flu-like symptoms Tingling and trembling - electrical like feelings Forced poking of nostrils and sneezing Interruption of thinking patterns - poor memory Visual hallucinations (cause stalking) V2K - (voice to skull and microwave hearing) Poked ear canals Powerful itching Bee stings - ranging in intensity Wildly racing heart without any anxiety No fear No feelings at all Short term memory loss Extremes in hot and cold body functioning Fake sounds heard in your head - or appears as though out of head Voices in your head - indicating you are under surveillance Vibration of the body - usually24/7 High pitch tones that can hurt Super hearing - exaggeration of normal hearing Switching of tones in hearing from left to right. Almost as though switching from left to right speaker Artificial sexual arousal and abuse of this stimulation Microwave type hearing Hissing in the ears - sometimes one or both. Artificial tinnitus Forced movement of jaw Forced manipulation of hands Introduction of subliminal words, thoughts and actions through hissing - silent sound Itching inside eyelids Choking sensations Induced sickness and vomiting Internal shifts Intense pain felt in all regions of the body Suddenly over heating - heating up of body parts Stop in your tracks sleep inducement Microwave burns Electric shocks Mental rape - no private thoughts Brain zapping squiggle type sensations Muscle spasms Inability to concentrate Night sweats and cold sweats if you like - extremes Blurred eyesight Mild pressure in head -cloudy feeling Loss of hair sometimes Jerking of limbs Rashes Damage to eyesight - cataracts Loss of weight - control of bowel movements Irritable bowel Forgetfulness Induced heart attack -pains in chest Hypodermic accuracy of pain Feet - hit with electrical pulses Pins and needles - whole body experiences reported I do see some people are not able to see the connections - have a look you will be very suprised at how exact they are. So much so that all you have to do is change the title and whatever belief system you are in - then you will believe its either the science, medical one or the spiritual one. Depends on you. So much choice isn't there? As I say - I believe that people need to find the right therapist or situation to be part of the cure. I am sure Freud cured a few people as well - but he had this habit of hanging on to them - for as much as ten years in some cases. I suppose that probably points out that they were either so far gone that they needed intensive treatment. Or that he confused them so much that they needed more treatment to undo the treatment he had already administered. I am on a few mental health forums and the general seems that counsellors and p-docs do not help. They get into mumbo-jumbo, either in "spiritual" speak or in pseudo-science speak and this does not seem to help. Many mental health programs are turning to CBT as the alternative treatment now. It is a well known fact that meds scramble the brain and the "serota" project demonstrated that no drugs was far more beneficial course of action. This I found on the parliament site of the uk govt - the outlining the support of not the new mental health bill Oh - i did not think we were going around in circles at all. I am afraid the truth is there and the truth will come out eventually. I wasn't looking for help as such - but I suppose another persons perspective is a form of help. I shall look at Jung now as you have made me think about him cori |
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"It is a well known fact that meds scramble the brain and the "serota" project demonstrated that no drugs was far more beneficial course of
action"
& in the absence of any easily accessible alternative, or something similar to sotera project or Diabasis, what can you do? In the event of severe psychosis? What alternative is there to the "system" & meds? I'm sorry I don't see the connection to Kundalini & "mind control" except possibly in a loose sense that each deals with altered states. If this is the gauge then Kundalini, mind control, Shamanism, Schizophrenia, Psychosis, Alien Abduction, NDE;s & OBE's, & drug effect (especially hallucinogens) all have pretty exact connections as well, in fact anything involving altered states. There are big differences between all of these things. I'm sure the "truth" will eventually come out, it is however highly debatable as to what the "truth" actually is.
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